Haplogroup I, my GORDON DNA
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To see a DNA study into my relationship with other Gordon lines follow this link. There is other information about possible source information for the Gordon surname.
To see the my Gordon line from 1635 to the present follow this link.
So now scientist think Amino acids, microbes, and other complex carbon atoms are passengers on asteroids and comets, refered to as meteorites if the strike the earth. The meteorites therefore delivered the building blocks of life as well as water to this planet. What about this right handed/left handed molecule disparity? They furthermore think the rate of evolution of new species correlates to the rate of impacts from meteorites. WOW. Below is the chart of some of the events that have taken place to make it possible that I can exist. You know, that extensive breeding program that culminates in ME.
| Years before Present | Event | ||
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94,000 Years Before Present |
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82,000 YBP Parent for HaploGroups B → R |
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42,800 YBP |
50,000YBP | 45,000 YBP Parent for HG F → R |
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36,800 YBP |
50,300 YBP |
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2nd out of Africa migration. 45,000 YBP (Cro-Magnon) |
Parent for HG K → R |
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27,500 YBP |
6,400 YBP |
3,800 YBP |
20,000 YBP |
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35,600 YBP |
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Parent for HG P → R |
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13,000 YBP |
17,400 YBP |
20,000 years BP Gravettian Culture? |
9,800 YBP |
2,900 YBP |
12,700 YBP |
8,800 YBP |
17,500 YBP |
29,900 YBP |
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Researchers think early Paleolithic hunter gatherers were comprised HaploGroup I, IJ peoples. They occupied "Europe" between 40,000 and 7,000 years ago. The Gravettian Culture, about 22,000 years ago, is contributed to haplogroup I. During the last ice age, 18,000 years ago, haplogroup I peoples "holed up" in the Balkans and the Iberian peninsula. Roughly 10,000 year ago there may have been a migration of these people south from Scandinavia. The megalithic structures in Europe are attributed to haplogroup I. The Ertebolle, 5300-3950BCE, and FunnelBeaker, 4000-2700BCE, cultures are thaught to have been I1a domains. R1 came on the scene and displaced I in the 3000BCE time frame. This lends creadance to the possibility that ALL I1 peoples descend from a sinlge male around 5000 years ago. |
YBP |
17,700 YBP |
16,300 YBP |
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P30, M307 |
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6,000-10,000 YBP Some think this mutation took place in what would become southern France 6,000 Years ago |
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I1a-N Norse |
I1a-AS AngloSaxon |
I1a-T Transitional |
I1a1 |
I1a2 |
I1a3 |
I1a4 |
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I1a-uN ultra Norse |
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I1a-uN2 |
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| Time | People | Origin | Haplo | Notes |
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I am assembling this map and the table below to look for the common thread for the testers who have some relationship to me. The map shows the migratory route of haplogroup I (M170 mutation) in gray. The darker gray is the area 30%-40% concentration. The lighter gray is roughly 15%-30% concentration. The purple arrows represent Scandinavian movement of haplogroup I in more modern times, say, 450AD until 1100AD and the time of William the Conqueror. Latvia, Slovakia and the Czech Republic have under 15% density. There are a few higher density areas in Russia such as, Adygea, Belgorod. This chart basically concerns itself with haplo "I". To see more about other haplos try this PDF pie chart.
The 3 green elipses represent concentrations of I1a-uN, within Haplogroup I. 29% in Norway, 24% Finlad, 16% in Denmark. The concentrations taper down to 3% in southern Germany. In the Anglo-Saxon version of haplogroup I there is no incidence of uN mutations.
Each red dot represents a family line from the table below. I hope to find a cluster of dots somewhere in Norway, or maybe France. If there are no matches in France that could exlude this DNA from the Normandy Vikings.
There should be a trail of stay behind "relatives".
The lineages listed below are provided by various DNA matching sites. The farthest back is about 1589. I don't expect to find a MRCA before 1000AD, maybe even 450AD(early Scandinavian outflow).
Swedes immigrated to England in 525AD. Viking incursions didn't start with the Lindisfarne monastery in 793, but that was the begining of serious raiding.
I need to consider the "bowl of meal Gordons" as a possible branching place. This would possibly attach me to another line about 1350AD. A Gordon Lord (possibly Alexander Seton/Gordon) offered that anyone could take the name Gordon in exchange for a "bow a meal".
| Genetic Distance info | DNA, test matches | |||||
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| Kit # | Genetic Distance @25 Markers | Family Names | Location | Farthest Ancestor | Notes | |
While working on the above charts, I see multiple paths that would move this basic DNA into the British Isles. Migration must have been up to Norway first. Then after the development of the I1a-uN2 mutation, some of this line spread from Norway back through Denmark to Germany and Belgium, to become part of the Anglo-Saxon/Jute migration to England, during the same time frame the Suevi(Sewdes)were also moving in. Slightly later more of this line would have been part of the Rollo group in Normandy, France that led to the 1066 Norman invasion of England. Through all that time there could still have been men on the Viking raiding ships, and small settlements all around the British Isles. With the above information I make these 2 assumptions;
Fisrt, some of these people were in the British Isles before surnaming became the norm, so they get different surnames from locations, professions or whatever. That helps to explain some of the different surnames.
Second, they don't all come from a single, British Isle, source ancestor. There are multiple immigrations, of this DNA stock, to the British Isles. Possibly some started from Viking settlements in the Shetland Islands, or the Northeastern Scottish coast line, or the Danelaw influx. Covering a time frame from as far back as 400AD and continuing through 1066AD. There is also the possibility of Normandy invasion particapants, bringing the DNA. A couple of the surnames , Sole and Yates, came from France with the Normans.
I would think some of the listings might connect in the British Isles, but some will not link until we come to the common Norse ancestor. In my opinion having something like the I1a-uN2 rather than undifferentiated I is a positive. Now you know you have a stopping point in Norway or Northern Sweden, followed by a trip back through Germany to the Balkans.
Modal haplotype I1a-uN2
DNA, "Y" Chromosome, Segment; DYS#
Kit #
Family
Dates, Location
or other
Pertinent
InformationH
a
p
l
o
g
r
o
u
p3
9
33
9
01
93
9
13
8
5
a3
8
5
b4
2
63
8
8
4
3
93
8
9
|
13
9
23
8
9
|
24
5
84
5
9
a4
5
9
b4
5
54
5
44
4
74
3
74
4
84
4
94
6
4
a4
6
4
b4
6
4
c4
6
4
d4
6
0G
A
T
A
H
4Y
C
A
I
I
aY
C
A
I
I
b4
5
66
0
75
7
65
7
0C
D
Y
aC
D
Y
b4
4
24
3
8
Loci --->
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
35965
3 changes since a common ancestor born 1635????
Predicted
I1a13
23
2214
10
14
15
11
14
11
12
11
28
15
8
9
8
11
23
16
21
29
11
14
14
16
10
10
19
21
14
14
17
19
2037
3638
12
10
13
23
14
10
14
15
11
14
11
12
11
28
15
8
9
8
11
23
16
20
29
11
14
14
16
10
11
19
21
14
14
17
20
35
38
12
10
This DNA fits into the I1a-uN2 type. There are 2 additional markers 461, and 462, that aren't part of the normal 37 marker test. Ken Nordtvedt has an interesting page about haplogroup I . His studies indicate the differences within haplogroup I. In I1a-uN2, the uN2 denotes ultra Norse2. uN2 is more likely to be from Norway rather than Sweden or Denmark, and certainly wouldn't derive from south of the Baltic or North Sea. In view of this information the above DNA is descended from Norwegian Vikings. Actually the mutations that distinguish I1a-uN2 took place in Scandinavia. That should make it easier to find a common link there. Having this Haplotype will definantly narrow the field of search. YSTR places this DNA in haplotype I1a-#26.
The haplotype for the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes is refered to as I1a-AS. I will have to study further to see of uN2 has been renamed to I1a...something or other.
Whit Athey has a haplogroup predictor available, which calculated these results as a 68% fit into I1a. Along with the haplogroup, FTDNA generates an REO (Recent Ethnic Origin) table. The REO for this DNA matches 4-6% of testers in Norway, Iceland, Isle of Mann, and Scotland.
Using the 25 marker tests, there are 1 step matches with surnames Andersson, Johnson, and McConley. There are 2 step matches with surnames Buchanon, MacInnes, MacLaren, Ottesen, Tipton, and Yates. However when you step up to the 37 marker test the results change considerably. The closest relationships are 4 steps. Braithwaite, Hemmingsen, and Syms are the only ones left. People in the know say these markers are slow to change. Perhaps 1 change every 500 generations. Using that math, I would not be related to Braithwaite, Hemmingsen, or Syms within 10,000 years. I probably share a common ancestor with these particular testers. Their DNA tests are as varied as the Gordon, with multiple groupings, which indicate multiple originations for their surname (or some other method was used to transfer that particular DNA). The Tipton surname arrived in America about 100 years after Alexander Gordon. The Andersson, Buchanon, and Johnson testers are in Scotland.
Rollo 1st Duke of Normandy, was born in Maer, Nord Trondelag, Norway between 845 and 870 AD. His band is the basic stock for the Normandy France people that invaded England in 1066. It doesn't exclude this DNA lineage, but doesn't prove anything yet.
At this point in time we have a 12/12 a 36.5/37, and a 37/37 match up with other Alexander Gordon descendants. The 36.5 and 37 matches both descend through Thomas(6) Gordon born 1678.